I am also deciding on the type of downlights to use. Do v downlights generally need more room in the ceiling space to install?
They guzzle power, and I'm always changing globes due to the constant power spikes here. If you regret putting in the Halogens,perhaps you can purchase some of the new MR16 Led lamps that are on offer. Then there will be good savings for your electricity bill and you can feel good for saving some black balloons. Do a google search and see what you can find. Rgds Greg. Are they 12V or V?? I guess I can fit a plug lead to them to go into the existing plug-in bases.
Hi they are 12 volt and they connect into the existing connections. We have got the sparky to install plugs where we would like downlights, does anyone know if these plugs can be used for ALL types of downlights?
Hi there all, Just to add my 2cents worth Halogen downlights are rated at AC, and led's are rated at DC. Therefore, to simply change the globe over, there are 2 outcomes: 1- It will not work. Like anything people, when a job is half done, the result is only half as well. Hope this helps!! We went to Beacon Lighting today and bought the V Murano downlight setup for our small kitchen This will have a cost and there will be some power loses get an electronic, rather than magnetic transformer to minimise these losses.
So when the bulb is rated at 50W, you need to add another 10W or so for the power used in the ballast. They use the MR16 fitting V lighting: Cheaper to install, one less part to go faulty, easier to insulate the roof no need to worry about clearing the transfomer and you can get LED, halogen and CFL bulbs. They use the GU10 fitting. Both are safe. Don't fall into the trap of thinking low voltage is the same as low energy - a 50W lamp uses 50W of power whatever the voltage.
Personally I'd go v every time - less to go wrong. Softus , 18 Apr Steve , 18 Apr Can you explain why they are better?? That's what i am really after, a comparison of light out put for 12V, V, and energy saving as well as a comparison of energy consumption.
PeteOP , 19 Apr Energy consumption is slightly higher for low voltage, due to losses in the transformer. They give a better beam width, and the light output from such a small lamp is phenomenal! They actually light all of the space, instead of a small pool on the floor. The colour of the light is also better for working under. The only bad thing i can think of is that they take a few minutes to warm up. Perhaps you weren't patient enough to wait for the full warmed-up light output?
If you think the light output is crap, come look at my bathroom. Steve , 19 Apr Thanks for all advice. PeteOP , 23 Apr The Ansell cage type fire rated ones are good if you are not using leds depending on the insualtion above as they let some of the heat out to prolong lamp life and if there is a fire the curtain on the side expands and gives the fire protection.
I think malcolm is right about the heat, i am sure the 12v are slightly hotter running temp, i agree with the point that the transfromer is just another thing to go wrong!
Click to expand Deleted member -. As far as i am concerned a transformer is just somthing else to go wrong. Adam W. As for voltage preference it makes little difference - a tonne of bricks weighs the same as a tonne of feathers. If it were a choice between the two I'd go for v as well so you don't have to mess about with transformers or those stupid pin connections.
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